Tommy Angelo

Posted by Baron Von De Rockefeller on August 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm:

A professional poker playing socialist? Say it isn’t so, inflation whiters bankrolls away you know….

Posted by Nick on August 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 am:

Hey Tommy,

I am just curious what you think our new our new terrific leaders have done to deserve the adjective “terrific”.

Posted by potmo on August 23rd, 2009 at 4:48 pm:

If the people lead, the leaders will follow. Progressive minded folks pulled together and thanks to new technologies and an inspiring candidate created an OPPORTUNITY to effect real change. I hope that when you say content you dont mean complacent. The hard work is just beginning. The world is in a big mess and the hogs are still wallowing around in the mud and must be dragged out. I think we are hard-wired to never be completely satisfied with the status quo and constantly strive to improve ourselves and our world. So be content and enjoy the changes, but don’t become satisfied or complacent. The world and the country are still in a huge mess and time is running out.

Posted by TR on August 24th, 2009 at 8:58 pm:

I’m really happy to see someone that I respect with that opinion. People are so quick to criticize Obama for whatever reason or lack thereof, but he seems genuinely good and as honest as a politician probably can be. He inherited this mess and if he was white, opinions would most likely be different.

Posted by Anna Paradox on August 25th, 2009 at 7:39 am:

To potmo: For what it’s worth, I used to think I needed to stay angry to make changes. For me, that has turned out not to be true. Once I learned more of the mental/emotional evenness skills Tommy talks about, more of my energy began going into taking the actions I could instead of being paralyzed by the immensity of the problems and of my reactions to them.

Posted by jude on August 25th, 2009 at 9:15 am:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU HAPPY BIRTHDAY POKERBUDDHABOY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.
one more year til a full deck!
j

Posted by Tommy Angelo on August 25th, 2009 at 10:08 am:

Hi Potmo!

You wrote:

“I think we are hard-wired to never be completely satisfied with the status quo and constantly strive to improve ourselves and our world.”

This is a great sentence. It felt so true and right when I first read it, but I knew there was a leak somewhere. And here’s what I think it is. Yes it’s good to constantly strive to improve ourselves and the world. What’s wrong is being hard-wired to being never completely satisfied. Are the two mutually exclusive? Does contentment = complacency? I don’t believe it does. I believe it is possible to accept everything that is bad and wrong and evil and injust, exactly as it is, in each moment it arises, without it harming us, and then, in the next moment, take action to make it better. Further, I believe that our ability to improve ourselves and the world could be enhanced by our increased contentment, not derailed by it.

Posted by Tommy Angelo on August 25th, 2009 at 10:15 am:

“one more year til a full deck!”

52 cards in a deck.

52 weeks in a year.

52 years in my life.

Seems pretty obvious that next year I should celebrate my age by playing poker every day for a year.

Posted by Tommy Angelo on August 25th, 2009 at 10:36 am:

Hi Nick,

You wrote: “I am just curious what you think our new our new terrific leaders have done to deserve the adjective “terrific”.”

When Obama speaks, I believe him. And that’s terrific.

When I really hear the part of his message that comes from forgiveness and compassion, I am made better. I believe that this part of his message is sincere, and if this it true, it means we have a man of great power and influence in a position where he can do a great deal of good for the world just by setting an example of how to be a good dude. And I believe he is doing exactly that, terrifically.

As to actual policies and the day-to-day running of the country, that stuff is always a balance between politics and ideology and money, and it’s always going to be messy. I don’t expect the guy I hire to run the country to be able to just walk in and fix the system. All I hope for is that he work within the system with high integrity as best he can. I believe Obama is doing his best. And I believe he is as honest as a politician can be. And I believe he and his people are a big improvement over the last group in terms of integrity and compassion. Thus the contentment.

Tommy

Posted by potmo on August 25th, 2009 at 1:28 pm:

Hey Tommy and Anna. I certainly don’t advocate feeling bad. I’m a big fan of feeling good. An inner sense of contentment coupled with a passion for making the world a better place, through whatever method that works best for you, seems like a good way to go about things.

My point was that I see a lot of progressives, kicking back, wringing their hands and saying, “OK my work is done now. Obama will fix everything”

That would be a huge mistake. I see now from your elaboration that that was not your point.

I guess we get down to definitions of terms and with my screwed up vocabulary I consider it possible to be content while dissatisfied simultaneously!

Posted by pal sport on August 25th, 2009 at 4:26 pm:

Good, thoughtful and respectful remarks everyone. What a civilized group you draw, Tommy. Your world is a good place, and makes ours better too. Happy birthday!

Posted by Nick on August 26th, 2009 at 8:49 am:

“When I really hear the part of his message that comes from forgiveness and compassion, I am made better. I believe that this part of his message is sincere, and if this it true, it means we have a man of great power and influence in a position where he can do a great deal of good for the world just by setting an example of how to be a good dude. And I believe he is doing exactly that, terrifically.”

Tommy, i have no argument whatsoever with these thoughts. I think Obama is a fabulous speaker, certainly influential, and most definitely compassionate.

“As to actual policies and the day-to-day running of the country, that stuff is always a balance between politics and ideology and money, and it’s always going to be messy. I don’t expect the guy I hire to run the country to be able to just walk in and fix the system. All I hope for is that he work within the system with high integrity as best he can. I believe Obama is doing his best. And I believe he is as honest as a politician can be. And I believe he and his people are a big improvement over the last group in terms of integrity and compassion. Thus the contentment. ”

This is the part that I just can’t accept…Unfortunatlely, just because you are compassionate, influential, sincere etc doesn’t get our country out of the shape we are in. I also am a realist, and I did not, and do not expect him to have “turned around” our country in this short time, or to have the perfect answer to get it done. What I do expect is to see programs, and spending that make sense, and don’t put our country in such a deep financial hole, we will never be able to recover. We can’t just keep throwing borrowed money around and expect it to make things better. For example, the whole cash for clunkers program just didn’t make sense to me. The general idea of stimulating the auto industry and getting gas guzzlers off the road made sense, the way it was implemented was terrible. I have a friend that was given $3500 to trade in a 2001 ford escape for a 2010 TOYOTA that only got 3 mph better mileage. Two things drastically wrong with that…3 MPH, AND FOR GOD SAKES, WE LET PEOPLE BUY FOREIGN CARS WITH IT! It just seems to make good COMMON SENSE to limit the cars to at least have to buy American and require better than 3 mph better!

Just some thoughts preventing me from agreeing with the “terrificness”

Posted by pathwalker on August 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pm:

I don’t recall where I read it, but I once read a quote that claimed that a madman can proclaim in a single sentence what a scientist must take three paragraphs to refute.

We have a lot of madmen proclaiming a lot of nonsense on a wide range of topics such as global climate change, economy fixing and health care reform. And while sometimes it is easy for us to spot the madmen, we are ourselves seduced by an occasional mad thought. Changing a person’s mind about some of these topics is like trying to change their religion. It takes time, patience, persistence and compassion – and shouldn’t be predicated with the declaration that the other person is profoundly wrong – either intellectually or emotionally.

The problems facing us are big, but not insurmountable. It will take a lot of hard work and a lot of difficult to pull off leadership. But this year, unlike recent years past, I think the guy at the wheel is driving toward sunrise rather than sunset.

Just my 2BB.